136: Marqeta | Jeff Parker

In Ep 136 of the Fintech Chattter Podcast Dexter Cousins is joined by Jeff Parker SVP and Managing Director, International at Marqeta.

Ep 136 Marqeta - Jeff Parker. Talking points:

03:38 Pipes and Plumbing of Fintech

05:42 Serving a Global customer base

09:29 Embedded Finance - Hype or BIG opportunity?

19:44 The Marqeta Culture

23:01 Making the switch from Big Bank to Fintech

28:56 Why most people fail in startups

33:45 Where the next big shift in Fintech innovation will come from

39:56 Jeff's Podcast recommendations

About Jeff Parker

Jeff is responsible for building Marqeta’s go-to-market and operational functions internationally and advancing the company’s service offerings in its key markets across Europe and APAC.

In his 20 years of experience in the financial services space, Jeff has worked across four continents, in senior roles at Macquarie Bank and international payments businesses, OFX, and then WorldFirst, a company he led as CEO.

About Marqeta

Marqeta is headquartered in Oakland, California and is certified to operate in 39 countries globally.

Marqeta’s modern card issuing platform empowers its customers to create customized and innovative payment cards.

Its modern architecture gives its customers the ability to build more configurable and flexible payment experiences, accelerating time-to-market and democratizing access to card-issuing technology.

Marqeta's open APIs provide instant access to highly scalable, cloud-based payment infrastructure that enables customers to launch and manage their own card programs, issue cards and authorize and settle payment transactions.

For more information visit Marqeta

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126: Liam Millward, Instant

In episode 126 of Fintech Chatter Dexter is joined by Liam Millward, CEO and Co-Founder of Instant.

About Liam Millward

At the time of recording, Liam was only 18 years old, the youngest ever guest on Fintech Chatter.

Dexter chats to Liam about his experiences as a Fintech founder still in his teens and the challenges he has faced in building a Fintech with no experience or network.

It's a fascinating and frank conversation with a truly talented and driven founder. Liam show's that age is just an attitude.

About Instant

Instant's mission is to build the future of a frictionless economy, transforming billions of complex checkouts, into 1-tap shopping experiences globally.

They create a world where the experience of checkout is effortless, anywhere and everywhere across the internet.

Instant has raised over $2.2m in venture capital, as one of Australia’s biggest pre-seed funding rounds known to date, led by Blackbird, alongside TEN13, Reinventure, Larry Diamond and more.

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Founded by Dexter Cousins in 2016, Tier One People is on a mission to help Australia become the world leader in Fintech innovation.

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Tier One People helps companies like Revolut, TrueLayer and 10x build founding teams for launch in Australia. 

And series A+ / ASX Listed Aussie Fintech like Lendi, Afterpay and 86 400 hire executive talent capable of delivering growth and scale. 

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Australian Fintech - The Journey Ahead

Last week was a MASSIVE week for the Australian Fintech Industry.

Intersekt 2022 was bigger and better than ever. Two days of conversations, insights, friendships being formed and connections being made. Along with lots of reunions, laughs, hugs and parties!

Almost 1000 people attended the sell-out event in what was a defining moment for the Fintech industry in Australia.

Tier One People founder Dexter Cousins shares his thoughts on where Australian Fintech is headed in this opinion piece.

I had hundreds of conversations at Intersekt, if you came up and said ‘hi’ thanks so much. I am genuinely blown away by the support for the podcast and the impact it has. It was a real highlight getting to meet so many listeners in person.

I also had many conversations with founders, CEO’s, Board advisors and investors. And it’s given me a pulse on the current state of the Fintech industry not just in Australia but globally.

Here are some of the insights I gained from those conversations and what it all could mean for Australian Fintech over the next 12 months or so.

Funding and Capital Raising:

Deals are happening, but mainly at the seed and series A stage. Pretty much every VC and investor I spoke with were clear, they want to see revenue and they want to see product market fit and a strong use case.

They are also scrutinising founders a lot more ensuring the capital is spent wisely on key/mission-critical hires and driving revenue growth. It seems insane to be even saying this but Lean Startup is very much back in fashion!

There’s still some unsavoury behaviour going on with term sheets pulled at the last minute. But it is giving opportunities to Fintechs who offer alternative sources of funding. Could this be an opportunity for companies like Fundabl or FundSquire (who had a heavy presence at Intersekt,) to really kick on in 2023?

Challenges ahead for Fintech lenders

For lending Fintechs, life is getting tougher especially if warehouse funding deals are up for renewal.There’s definitely pressure in the home lending space as sales drop and the e cost of funding has increased 5x in 2022.

Offering interest free credit is going to prove very costly. And I am seeing BNPL businesses start to reinvent their propositions. Last year every lending business was wearing the BNPL badge, but now many Fintech are trying to rid themselves of that badge.

I expect to see consolidation and transformation in these businesses. Again these are skills required in the aftermath of the GFC across Aussie banks and financial institutions.

UK Fintech vs Australian Fintech

So where is The good news? I was pleasantly surprised by the energy and optimism last week.

The week started off very positively by joining up with the UK Department of International Trade Fintech delegation.

10 Fintech companies made up the delegation as well as representatives from Fintech North.

It’s always good to get an outsider's view and the feedback I received was positive with most delegates feeling Australia is a place they could do business. Our guests from the UK seem genuinely excited by the Australian opportunity.

Listen to UK Fintech Companies to watch out for

Everyone at Intersekt who I spoke to acknowledges the challenges we face.

Sadly there were many people and companies not at Intersekt 2022. Volt Bank and Xinja are two high-profile examples that in Fintech fortune rarely favours the brave.

But there is an optimism and acceptance that we are moving into phase 3 of Fintech. If I cast my mind back 4 years ago and Sibos 2018, that was a landmark moment for Fintech down under. It’s a point where I personally felt I had made the right business decision by specialising in Fintech.

I have had some doubts over the past 12 months, especially with the noise around Web3. But Intersekt has rekindled my belief and passion for Fintech and here’s why:

Payments, Crypto and Blockchain Converge

Payments/defi, accounting/cost management, business lending, home loans and tech infrastructure are all growth opportunities.

The discussions in payments were all about tokenisation, CBDC’s and Defi. My fundamental belief is that these technologies would always play a role. My hesitation has always been centred around the technology usurping sovereign currencies.

That dream is a over and we are clearly seeing a world where the two coexist and enable rapid innovation.

Can Australian Fintech rescue the economy?

As we enter tough economic times small businesses in Australia face a significant threat. I'm a small business owner and the CX and UX from my bank is woeful. The problem is I have very few options and the process of changing banks is heavily paper focussed and manual.

Access to capital remains a major problem with the segment largely ignored by the major banks. Here's the problem, Australia has 2.4m small businesses, including 1.5m sole traders. This is the lifeblood of Australia's economy.

I am genuinely excited by the solutions being built by my friends at Cape, Thriday, Hnry, MyGigsters, Patron - and as I mentioned previously alternative funding sources.

MyGigsters is a great example of why I am so optimistic. My key takeaway from last week is this.

Australian Fintech is now a self-sufficient industry

Fintechs are building solutions that enable other Fintechs to launch and scale at low cost and fast. Running lean is now possible, building prototypes and getting products to customers can be done faster and cheaper than ever.

Back in 2018 a platform like MyGigsters would be very difficult to build and would take serious investment. By partnering with other Fintech's MyGigsters has been able to build something fast, at a low cost and get 3000 customers in 12 months.

It’s this infrastructure that enables rapid innovation. Lean startup really suits the Aussie market, we have a high proportion of entrepreneurs and almost 10% of the population own a business or are a sole trader.

Executive Hiring in Fintech

Hiring at an Executive level has started to ramp up again after a quiet couple of months.

There are some important trends to be aware of. All hires I’m working on now require Execs with experience in managing through a downturn.

Even in Chief Product Officer roles the emphasis is shifting from tech/UX to leaders who can manage a P&L and demonstrate growing top line while cutting costs.

If you started your career post-GFC this may seem a little strange to you, but for those who went through the GFC, it looks like your experience could be in demand over the next 18 months.

The Australian Fintech Job Market

The last 6 months have seen redundancies- more will follow!

So far the majority of redundancies have been poor performers, quiet quitters and those who refuse to return to the office. Sounds harsh but it’s a fact.

I’ve been vocal on this over the last six months to try and prepare my network for the change we are experiencing.

We all face a harsh reality now, the only indication that your operating model is working is profitability

Phase one of redundancies is to let go of the people who you won’t miss. Don’t let the crying CEO posts on LinkedIn fool you. There have been some serious performance and attitude issues for leadership to deal with over the last two years.

We are now hitting a phase of redundancies where great people are let go and top talent will hit the market. If you are a startup founder don’t get too excited just yet.

Salaries continue to be an issue. I see future pain for companies who have recently hired $150k candidates at $300k. As one CEO pointed out

‘at $160k they were great, but at $300k I’d expect 3 times the output I am getting from them today’

Elevating talent to their 1st exec position with only a few years of experience is like sending lambs to the slaughter in this current climate.

If you've had staff poached by offering double their salary, this may actually strengthen you and weaken your competitors. I expect to see serious levels of burnout as a result.

Where is the top Fintech Talent moving?

And this is why I think Profitable businesses will become the most sought after by talent. Sadly the industry will lose talent to Banks and tech companies like Canva will continue to poach our best people.

If I remember back to the GFC ‘unfashionable’ profitable companies were able to attract top talent from investment banks and management consultancies, as they sought a safe haven.

Commonwealth Bank is a great example, where they have transformed into one of the best-run digital banks in the world. Pre-GFC it was very difficult to convince tier-one talent that CBA was the right place for them.

Established, profitable companies in payments and financial services looking to innovate will offer compelling opportunities to top talent burnt out by startup life.

I am already seeing oustanding people avoid startups for more stable companies as we navigate this uncertain period.

Fintechs who run lean, generate revenue. move fast to profitability and have achieved product/market fit will attract the best investors and the best talent.

124: Datamesh, Mark Nagy

Dexter Cousins is joined by Mark Nagy, CEO and Founder of Datamesh for episode 124 of Fintech Chatter.

As CEO of Datamesh, Mark Nagy brings over 30 years of experience in payments technology. A proven innovator of new technologies Mark has founded, built and profitably exited three technology companies.

Dexter chats to Mark about the recent partnership between Datamesh and Crypto.com and how the world of crypto, blockchain and payments are converging at a rapid pace. Mark also shares his thoughts on leadership, payments, capital raising and managing a business through economic cycles.

About DataMesh

DataMesh Group is an Australian-based payments technology provider revolutionising the current system used by banks, acquirers, and merchants across the globe.

DataMesh delivers next-generation, fully integrated payment capabilities, through its proprietary EMV-compliant financial switching platform (UnifyTM).

Unify is the world’s most modern and powerful cloud and terrestrial-based financial switching solution available in the market today.

Datamesh has commenced the global rollout of its platform, creating a worldwide, interconnected network of processing capabilities that will be offered as a white-label or SAAS model.

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104: Paypa Plane, Simone Joyce

Episode 104, Dexter Cousins interviews the Super Woman of FinTech and CEO of Paypa Plane, Simone Joyce.


Welcome to the latest episode of Fintech Chatter. The show that connects leaders from the FinTech community to share their learnings on leadership, hiring, entrepreneurship, raising capital, scaling and of course, a bit of chat. 

In episode 104 of Fintech Chatter Podcast Dexter Cousins chats with the Super Woman of FinTech, Simone Joyce. CEO of Paper Plane, Chair of FinTech Australia, industry advisor and mum of four. Simone is what we describe as a force of nature.

Paper Plane is a B2B payments platform that brings together the world of traditional payments, crypto and Real-Time Payments.

Simone talks about the recent investment by Commonwealth Bank. And shares her experiences as a fintech entrepreneur, industry leader and mum!

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99: The story of Tyro, Andrew Rothwell

In episode 99 of Fintech Chatter Podcast we are going back to the origins of Fintech and bringing you an interview with another Aussie Fintech pioneer.

Dexter Cousins is joined by Andrew Rothwell an original co-founder and ‘chief Tyrant” of Tyro - one of the biggest disruptors and innovators of payments in Australia.

As a Jack of all trades Andrew held many roles in the business, from software engineer to finally heading up sales. 

Andrew sat on various national technical committees that provided the regulation and guidance for the development of Australia's present day payment system.

Tune in as Andrew talks about: 

97: Sympli, Philip Joyce

In Episode 97 of Fintech Chatter Dexter Cousins talks to Philip Joyce, CEO of Sympli.



Sympli is a next-generation e-settlements solution delivering much-needed competition, reliability, security and value to the property industry.

Sympli entered the e-settlement market in 2018 with a clear purpose of representing industry’s need for a secure, reliable and efficient e-settlements service.

Prior to Sympli's entry, PEXA had a monopoly on the e-settlements market.

I chat to Philip about the challenges of breaking a monopoly, how Sympli is leveraging the support of their JV parents InfoTrack and ASX and what it takes to scale a tech business.

Philip shares his own experience of making the switch from Big 4 Bank to Fintech. And he shares his advice to others wanting to make a similar move.

https://www.sympli.com.au/about-us/

83: Ezypay, James Foster on Fintech Chatter.

In episode 83 of Fintech Chatter Podcast Dexter Cousins is joined by James Foster CEO of Ezypay.




Ezypay is Australia’s first Subscription Payments company and an OG bootstrapped Fintech success! The business has been profitable and generating its own cash flow since starting in 1996.

Over the last 25 years, Ezypay has grown to 9 countries across Asia-Pacific. Reinvesting in technology. Ezypay has developed an innovative cloud billing platform, integrated with leading software companies across a range of industries.

James and Dexter talk about the Ezypay journey, the benefits of bootstrapping, rocketship growth, pivots and what it means to run a profitable business with zero VC funding.

If like us, you love a good bootstrap story then you will love this episode!

About James Foster.

James joined Ezypay in 2017 and has over 20 years’ experience in technology-driven businesses across marketing, sales and technology leadership roles.

His experience working at senior levels in global software and services organisations allows him to drive Ezypay’s ambitious growth objectives.

Find out more - https://www.ezypay.com/

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Scott Eddington, WorldRemit

In ep 43 Fintech Chatter Podcast Dexter Cousins chats Fintech with Scott Eddington, APAC Managing Director of WorldRemit, a Fintech tackling the issues of financial inclusion and supporting the unbanked.

Scott talks through the payment trends since Covid hit and how emerging economies are embracing digital wallets.

Covering 150 countries around the world and with over 4 million customers, WorldRemit plays a critical role in helping economic migrants send money to their families back home.

Scott shares how WorldRemit ultimately helps millions of children to go to school,  thousands of people to receive medical treatment and, every week, thousands of people to pay their bills.

TCV, Accel and Leapfrog Investments have invested $375 million WorldRemit – and as early backers of the likes of Facebook, Spotify and Netflix, they are in good company!

To find out more go to https://www.worldremit.com/

Ep 27: Simon Lee, Patona

In episode 27 Dexter is joined by Simon Lee, Co-Founder of Assembly Payments and now Managing Partner at Patona.

Simon knows a thing or two about raising capital and scaling Fintech's. As CEO at Assembly Simon has raised $70m and won partnerships with Westpac and Standard Chartered.

Patona started life as a bootstrapped tech startup that saw amazing success by running the majority of its business from India with minimal investment.

This is a 'no holds' barred chat with Simon as he gives his views on the 'Fintech startup Dream' and shares how Patona is helping Fintech founders launch and scale with minimal capital.

Christian Westerlind Wigstrom, Monoova

 

In episode 24 of the FinTech Australia Podcast Dexter talks to Christian Westerlind Wigstrom of Monoova, an end-to-end payment solution allowing businesses to automate how they receive, manage and pay funds. 

Using an API-driven Payment Engine, businesses can scale without worrying about how their transactions are managed.

Christian shares his thoughts on a not-too-distant world where payments will be seamless and just happen as we move through our daily lives.

We also talk about the importance of hiring the right people and how that can quickly lead to success.

 

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Carolyn Breeze - GoCardless

Carolyn Breeze is General Manager Australia of GoCardless a global payments platform designed for recurring payments.

They process more than $13 billion in transactions each year. Gocardless is backed by some major players in the VC world, including Accel partners, Salesforce Ventures, and Google Ventures. 

Carolyn is a payments veteran holding senior positions at eBay, PayPal, and winner of the 'Women in Payments Award' in 2019. 

Carolyn talks with Tier One People‘s Dexter Cousins about her journey and shares her tips on how to make the Country Manager role a success.

How did you get started down the path of FinTech and payments?

My journey into Fintech started with Braintree, which was part of the PayPal business. To provide some background, Braintree is the technology stack behind the acceptance of credit cards. They helped build some of the world's most amazing payment experiences for companies like Uber and Airbnb. 

It was an exciting time as the technology and company kept evolving. But in order to continue my career in this field, I acknowledged I needed to adopt an attitude of continuous learning especially around payments. And if I wanted to become a leader then I needed to develop skills in other areas too.

What were the origins of the GoCardless business and how did it get started?

GoCardless launched 6 years ago in the UK by three co-founders, Hiroki Takeuchi, our CEO, Tom (Blomfield) and Matt (Robinson). Together they developed a simple online tool that would allow SMEs to collect direct debit monies via bank debit. Both Tom and Matt have moved on to found other major Fintech companies, Monzo and Nested.

In the past banks made it incredibly difficult for SMB/SME’s to access these facilities because they needed to underwrite the risk associated with bank debits. A small business who wants to get bank debit facilities needs to put down a big reserve as security to mitigate the risk, often totalling hundreds of thousand of dollars. It was from this idea that GoCardless was born.

GoCardless is going from strength to strength in 2020. We are currently connected in 30 countries. With boots on the ground in London, Paris, Munich, Melbourne and San Francisco. Over 450,000 merchants use us as their platform every day. 

What about the culture and the people at GoCardless?

There were a couple of things that really jumped out to me when I was interviewing for the role. The business had an instant entrepreneurial feel. Everybody I met was very clear about the goals and outcomes of GoCardless. They were aligned to solve real problems on a global scale. Everyone I met was focused on how their role impacted the success of the business. I found this really inspiring.

Employees recognise what a great business GoCardless is and are fully invested in how they can play a part in the continued success. There is a collective passion. 

What are some of the challenges you faced in your position as country manager? Do you have any tips you can share?

The distance and the practicality around our different time zone is the greatest challenge.  To combat this we have to make sure there's an extension of the culture between UK and all our global offices. Everyone adds to a companies culture as the organisation evolves.

Whilst our roots are in the UK and we have a lot of similarities between us, there were still things needing adjustments. We had to tweak our onboarding processes to suit as an example.  

It was very important and critical to our growth that we tweaked early and started to pivot certain elements. We brought our UK product to Australia, keeping everything that's great about it, whilst carrying out tweaks for Australia to increase appeal to the local market.

Would you like to share some of your success stories?

We currently have 2100 active merchants using on a regular basis, which is incredible for how long we've been in the Australian market. 

In addition we have got great brands to join us including, Deputy, DocuSign, Siteminder, Vitality, Butn, Archa, Indebted, Glow Power, Pulse, Movember and most of these have been global deals, where GoCardless is used in multiple markets. 

Globally, we have about 230 different platforms. Xero, which is our key partner for us globally, has Gocardless as the only bank debit solution on their platform. 

Salesforce billing is one of our most recent global partnerships. Gocardless works with some fantastic billing platforms like Zora, Charge B, Charger Fire, Recurly, who have been instrumental in getting us to this point.

How have you tackled identifying and attracting talent at GoCardless?

Early on I convinced two people on secondment from the UK office to stay here with me and continue the journey. They had both worked with the UK office for 3 to 4 years and brought an instant extension of the culture to Australia. It is a winning strategy, that I would highly recommend for other fintech launching in Australia.

In addition I've worked with some amazingly talented payment nerds over the last few years who reached out to me when I moved into this role. But as we grow it will become more challenging as we go outside of natural networks.

How do you assess culture fit in an interview? 

I hire passionate, dedicated people who have well researched ideas and buy into what we're doing. Culture fit is the main part of our interview process. Which is why we have multi-level interviews including those carried out by peers. Some people make it easy for us to decide whether they will work out by their behaviour outside of the interview process. I always ask reception for their thoughts as an example. I am amazed how people are delightful to me in an interview yet awful to our people in reception.

We talk a lot about our values, why we do what we do and the problems we are trying to solve. We want to work with people who have pride in their job and bring craftsmanship to their role.

You can also learn a lot about a person in the language they use. “I” instead of “We” can often be a sign that someone takes credit for or doesn't recognise the contribution of their colleagues. This attitude is a big problem in a startup.

What does the future hold for Gocardless?

It is so exciting to be part of this industry. We’ve recently stitched together our global network of bank debit schemes. We can now collect for you in 30 countries and settle back to your home account.

Our recent partnership with Transferwise has been a huge boost for our business, and it is a global first. We can also settle with your local entity of choice. For the first time we can now truly rival schemes like Visa, MasterCard and Amex which is really exciting.

We’ve used all the transactional data across the 30 billion dollars of payments that we process to build a payments intelligence platform. And we've developed a new product called Success Plus that uses AI. 

This has enabled us to use those analytics to drive further efficiency. Which allows us to understand our customers more. But we keep innovating, as I see so many fintechs pop up that are solving something for a consumer, educating them around how to manage their money better. It's such an exciting industry to be part of.