151: Civic Ledger | Katrina Donaghy

It's been three years since Katrina Donaghy last joined Dexter on Fintech Chatter to talk about Civic Ledger. In this episode Katrina shares an update on Civic Ledger and how they are bringing governance to water rights through tokenisation.

"We haven't asked for permission to do this. In the 15 years since the White paper, we've built this entire digital global economy."

- Katrina Donaghy

Navigating the Blockchain Journey with Civic Ledger

In this thought-provoking interview, Dexter Cousins reconnects with Katrina Donaghy, co-founder of Civic Ledger, to discuss the evolution of the blockchain industry and the challenges and opportunities it presents.

With a focus on Civic Ledger's mission to improve transparency and accountability in government through blockchain technology, Katrina shares her insights on the journey of blockchain, the importance of contextualizing the technology within society, and the need for bottom-up governance.

She also offers advice for startups navigating the funding landscape and emphasizes the value of customer-centricity and resilience in building a successful company.

The Ever-Evolving Fintech Landscape

The world of blockchain technology has come a long way since its inception, and few individuals have witnessed its growth and transformation as closely as Katrina Donaghy, co-founder of Civic Ledger.

In this insightful interview, Katrina reflects on the past seven years of Civic Ledger's journey and shares her thoughts on the current state of the blockchain industry.

The Early Days: From Proof of Concept to Public Blockchains

Civic Ledger was founded in 2016, at a time when blockchain technology was still a relatively unknown concept. Katrina, recognised the potential of blockchain to solve efficiency problems in government transactions. She embarked on a proof of concept with the Queensland government, exploring the application of blockchain to issue community liquor licenses. This early success led them to establish Civic Ledger and focus on the civic applications of blockchain technology.

"We were interested in using blockchain to improve transparency and accountability in government transactions," Katrina explains. "We saw the frustration in dealing with paper-based processes and the need for a more efficient and secure way to transact with government."

The Challenges of Early Adoption and the ICO Craze

As pioneers in the blockchain space, Katrina and her team faced numerous challenges along the way. One of the biggest hurdles was the lack of understanding and awareness surrounding blockchain technology. They had to establish themselves as thought leaders and constantly advocate for the value and potential of blockchain beyond the hype.

"We were tired of the constant focus on 'what is blockchain?' and wanted to shift the conversation to 'why blockchain?'" Katrina recalls. "We believed in the power of public blockchains for transparency and accountability, while many others were focused on private blockchains."

Another significant challenge came in the form of the ICO (Initial Coin Offering) craze, where companies raised large sums of money on the promise of an idea or token with little to no utility. This period tested the resilience of Civic Ledger, as they struggled to secure funding and maintain momentum.

"We had a year where no one wanted to work with us," Katrina admits. "We had to weather the storm and stay true to our mission, even when the industry seemed to be moving in a different direction."

The Importance of Contextualising Blockchain within Governance

Throughout their journey, Katrina and her team remained focused on their mission to improve transparency and accountability in government. They recognised that blockchain technology could be a powerful tool for reorganising governance and reshaping how value is shared among citizens.

"I come from a background in government, and blockchain spoke to me because I understood the socioeconomics behind it," Katrina explains. "We saw the potential to transform how governments issue and manage assets, such as water rights and patents."

Civic Ledger's work in the water market sector exemplifies their commitment to using blockchain to address real-world challenges. By digitizing water rights and creating a transparent and auditable ledger, they enable more efficient allocation of water resources and empower stakeholders to make informed decisions.

"We recognized that water is a critical asset, and traditional water markets are often illiquid and inaccessible to smaller players," Katrina says. "Our goal is to democratize access to water markets and optimize the allocation of this precious resource."

Emulating Global Innovators and Fostering Collaboration

When asked about countries that Australia could learn from in terms of blockchain adoption, Katrina highlights the progress made in Asia, particularly Vietnam, India, and China. These countries have embraced blockchain technology and are investing in the development of blockchain talent and infrastructure.

"Asia is leading the way in terms of blockchain adoption," Katrina asserts. "They understand the importance of building internal capabilities and leveraging blockchain to drive economic growth."

She also emphasizes the need for collaboration within the blockchain industry, both at a national and global level. Associations like Blockchain Australia have played a crucial role in facilitating conversations with government and driving regulatory change. Katrina believes that now is the time for the industry to come together and shape the next phase of blockchain's evolution.

"We have an opportunity to solidify our collective voice and work towards a common goal," Katrina says. "By collaborating and sharing knowledge, we can drive the adoption of blockchain technology and create a more transparent and accountable society."

Navigating Funding Challenges and Building a Valuable Company

As the conversation turns to the funding landscape for blockchain startups, Katrina acknowledges the difficulties faced by many founders in securing capital. However, she emphasises the importance of building a valuable company that solves real problems and focuses on customer needs.

"Building a valuable company is not about chasing the latest trends or raising the most money," Katrina asserts. "It's about understanding your customers, doubling down on your product, and constantly listening to the industry you serve."

Civic Ledger's resilience and customer-centric approach have been key factors in their success. Despite not raising capital since 2018, they have continued to grow and deliver solutions that address critical challenges in the water market sector.

"We have stayed true to our purpose and focused on building a valuable product," Katrina explains. "Now, we are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel as our customers embrace our technology and recognize its transformative potential."

The Future of Blockchain and Civic Ledger's Journey

As the interview comes to a close, Katrina reflects on the future of blockchain technology and the role of Civic Ledger in driving its adoption. She remains optimistic about the industry's potential to reshape governance and create a more transparent and accountable society.

"We have come a long way in the past seven years, but there is still much work to be done," Katrina concludes. "By staying true to our mission, focusing on our customers, and collaborating with industry stakeholders, we can continue to drive the adoption of blockchain technology and create a better future for all."

As Civic Ledger enters its next phase of growth, Katrina and her team are poised to make a lasting impact in the water market sector and beyond. Their journey serves as a testament to the power of resilience, customer-centricity, and a steadfast commitment to solving real-world problems with blockchain technology.

Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this article are those of the speaker and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of any other agency, organization, employer, or company.

About Katrina Donaghy

Through Katrina's early years as a sociologist through to her interest in entrepreneurialism, she has extensive experience in public policy and early stage commercialisation. For more than 20 years, Katrina has worked in both public and not for profit sectors with a specific focus on business development, project delivery and revenue diversification with the view to building resilient and sustainable organisations. 

In Australia, she organises Women in Blockchain events and regularly speaks on the topic of why cities and governments should be exploring blockchain technologies. Katrina's interest in blockchain technologies is driven by her curiousity of its potential for governments to create and facilitate new citizen-at-the-centre markets, organisations and economies of the future.

About Civic Ledger

Civic Ledger is a purpose-driven technology company with a mission to build multi-lateral marketplaces with blockchain capabilities to the benefit of all.


They offer a range of digital transformation products and solutions, including blockchain-based platforms for highly regulated real-world and intangible assets, the tokenisation, tracking and tracing the issuance and use of licenses, permits and rights, and secure data sharing for meeting disclosure requirements.

Civic Ledger aims to empower citizens, industries, and governments to streamline operations, reduce fraud, improve auditability, and promote accountable governance.

Blockchain News - May 2023

Welcome to the May edition of Blockchain News with Dexter Cousins and Chloe White.

Chloe dials in from Croatia and shares some of the projects she's been working on across CBDC's, Digital Assets and Tokenisation.

Dexter and Chloe discuss:

03:00 - The role AI plays in Blockchain
11:00 - Regulation for Blockchain and AI
14:30 - Hong Kong is a Crypto friendly Hub - fact or fiction?
16:45 - The banking collapse and De-Dollarization
26:00 - Tokenisation and Fractional investing

Blockchain News Headlines



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65452940

https://cointelegraph.com/news/circle-ceo-warns-of-active-and-accelerating-de-dollarization

https://cryptonews.com/news/visa-to-develop-brazilian-blockchain-powered-cbdc-project.htm

https://cointelegraph.com/news/hong-kong-authorities-remind-banks-not-to-be-too-hasty-in-rejecting-digital-asset-clients

https://cointelegraph.com/news/hong-kong-s-crypto-rules-set-a-high-bar-for-good-reason-says-sfc-advisor

https://www.blockchaintechnology-news.com/2023/04/cofund-tokenises-luxury-bali-hotel-using-tokeny/


About Chloe White

Chloe was Australia’s inaugural National Blockchain Roadmap Lead and former advisor to the Australian Government on crypto-asset innovation. She is now playing a key role in policy development and regulation globally through her advisory business, Genesis Block.

Connect with Chloe on Linkedin

007: CANVAS | David Lavecky

In Ep. 007 of Blockchain Chatter Dexter Cousins talks to David Lavecky, CEO and Co-Founder of CANVAS

Tune in as they discuss the latest RBA CBDC eAUD initiative and the work CANVAS is piloting on Atomic FX settlements.

As a payments and fintech veteran, David shares his thoughts on the convergence of blockchain and payments and why he feels the time is right for mainstream adoption of the technology.

About CANVAS

CANVAS is a global blockchain company with a mission to digitise finance. They offer decentralized capital market infrastructure that enables financial institutions and governments to easily expand their reach into the digital economy.

Canvas Connect is a privacy focused Layer 2 ZK network built for finance and the digital economy. Connect extends the capabilities of Ethereum with assurances of privacy, high speed and low costs.

Connect uses an API first model that supports easy integration with no solidity skills required.

Capital Markets Applications are built on the network that enable the Transfer, Trade & Investment of Tokenised Real World Assets, Stablecoins, CBDCs & Digital Assets, all with privacy and secured by Ethereum.

With a deep understanding of financial markets and the digital economy, CANVAS is committed to driving the digital transformation of banks, financial institutions, and governments in the modern landscape. By providing innovative solutions that are faster, more secure, and more cost-effective than traditional systems, Canvas is helping to unlock the potential of digital finance globally.

About David Lavecky

David is a highly experienced technology entrepreneur and investor, and CEO and Co-Founder of CANVAS 

He was previously the Co-Founder, COO & EVP of Pure Commerce which was one of Australia’s first high-growth fintech companies, providing electronic payment infrastructure to banks globally. Following the sale of Pure Commerce to Euronet WorldWide (NASDAQ: EEFT), David was retained to continue the global growth, working with major banks and financial institutions across the globe.

As their next venture, David and his brother Daniel Co-Founded CANVAS in the belief that Blockchain technologies, Digital Assets, & Tokenisation will radically transform financial and capital markets over the next decade with trillions of $ of securities and currencies to be tokenized and traded 24/7/365.

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005: Betacarbon | Guy Dickinson

In episode 5 of Blockchain Chatter Dexter Cousins chats to Guy Dickinson, CEO and Cofounder of BetaCarbon.

BetaCarbon launched in 2021 and winner of the Finnies People's Choice Award in 2022. Guy shares his journey of heading up Carbon Markets for HSBC to launching his own startup, democratising carbon trading tokens on the Ethereum network.

About BetaCarbon

Betacarbon enables retail investors to get exposure to Australian Carbon. For the first time, you can take part in the Australian carbon market with as little as $1.Carbon credits are created through projects that capture greenhouse gases from the atmosphere, such as planting trees. These credits can then be bought and sold in the carbon markets, with the goal of reducing overall carbon emissions.

As the world moves towards a low-carbon future, carbon credits will likely continue to play a role in helping businesses and individuals offset their carbon emissions and transition to cleaner energy sources.

https://www.betacarbon.com/

About Clima
In just three simple steps, Clima makes it easy to show customers your commitment to climate change, while improving brand loyalty.
https://www.clima.com.au/

004: Fireblocks | Shane Verner

In episode 4 of Blockchain Chatter Dexter Cousins chats with Shane Verner from Fireblocks.

Shane shares the amazing story of Fireblocks, a tech startup that got to $100m ARR in record time (only Slack has accomplished this feat faster than Fireblocks!)

Dexter asks Shane why an Israeli-based Blockchain business sees Australia as such an important market.

And they talk about some of the groundbreaking work Fireblocks is doing in the Australian market.

Shane has spent many years in the banking technology sector working for companies like Thought Machine, IBM and Cisco. He shares his insights on how blockchain and digital assets are the future of the banking industry.

About Fireblocks

Fireblocks is an enterprise-grade platform delivering a secure infrastructure for moving, storing, and issuing digital assets. 

Fireblocks enables exchanges, lending desks, custodians, banks, trading desks, and hedge funds to securely scale digital asset operations through the Fireblocks Network and MPC-based Wallet Infrastructure. 

Servicing over 1,600 financial institutions, Fireblocks has secured the transfer of over $3 trillion in digital assets, and has a unique insurance policy that covers assets in storage & transit. 

Some of the biggest trading desks have switched to Fireblocks because it’s the only solution that CISOs and Ops Teams both love. 

For more information, please visit www.fireblocks.com.

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003: Zerocap | Ryan McCall

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In episode 3 of our Blockchain Chatter series, Dexter Cousins is joined by Ryan McCall, CEO of Zerocap.

They're an Australian Blockchain business building Digital asset investment products and technology for wholesale and institutional investors.

Ryan is responsible for driving the company forward to realise Zerocap’s vision: zero friction, borderless finance.

2022 was a HUGE year for Zerocap. In addition to winning multiple industry awards, they launched Australia's first stable coin (in partnership with ANZ) and are partnering with ASX to build a digital asset trading and custody platform.

About Ryan McCall

As a self-taught software engineer, Ryan has worked around financial services since 2006, having designed and delivered complex risk and pricing engines for international insurance and wealth management companies including Marsh, Willis, IAG, Findex, Hyperion, and Generation Life.

About Zerocap

Founded in 2016, Zerocap is a market-leading private wealth management firm for digital assets. Zerocap brings a deep understanding of digital asset technology, trading, portfolio optimisation, custody, and insurance, having processed over a billion dollars of digital assets for investors, institutions, and family offices.

Zerocap

careers@zerocap.com

Here's a rundown of the chapters:

0:00 Intro

2:23 About Zerocap

4:13 Working with ANZ on Australia's first Stable coin

7:17 The Zerocap Fund

8:39 ASX Partnership

12:24 Institutional Support for Digital Asset Technology

18:09 Will the economic crisis lead to mainstream adoption of digital assets?

22:24 Regulation and building credibility

27:03 Hiring the right people at the right time

32:39 Leadership lessons from scaling a business

42:32 2023 trends - Tokenisation

48:04 Zerocap plans in 2023

49:55 How to get in touch

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002: Starkware | David Engel

In episode 002 of Blockchain Chatter, Dexter Cousins is joined by David Engel, Head of Business Development for Starkware, a Layer 2 scaling solution that helps companies build on top of Ethereum while reducing the cost of doing so by up to 1000x.

About David Engel

David is a business development executive, with deep experience in accelerating the growth of Web3 and Fintech companies.

Prior to StarkWare, David was a Fintech BDM at AWS, in both the ANZ and EMEA markets from 2019-2022.

David has also been a Commercial Director for the Australian and New Zealand markets for Verrency, a fintech platform that allows card issuers to innovate faster, and at scale, as well as Australian Country Manager for i2c, a Silicon Valley-based cloud payments processor.

About Starkware

StarkWare is paving the way to a Web3 future, using uncheatable cryptographic technology to scale blockchain for mass adoption.


StarkEx, StarkWare’s SaaS-based scaling service, has settled over $770B, processed over 294M transactions, minted more than 90M NFTs, and serves hundreds of thousands of users monthly through customers like ImmutableX, dYdX and Sorare.


StarkNet, a permissionless, general-purpose scaling solution, is live (Alpha) on Ethereum Mainnet. Developers from across the world are using it to build tomorrow’s decentralized applications.

001: Chloe White | Genesis Block

Welcome to episode 001 of Blockchain Chatter, our new show where Blockchain leaders join Dexter Cousins for a chat. 

To kick off the show we couldn’t think of a better person who embodies the spirit of what this show is about 

Today’s guest is Chloe White the CEO of Genesis Block.

Chloe is Blockchain Leader of the year and has worked directly on blockchain policy since April 2018. Chloe joins us to talk about the current state of the industry following last week's collapse of FTX.

Can the industry regroup or does this spell the end?

What lessons can we draw from the GFC and where might there be new opportunities in the future?

What role do regulators play now and how do we educate the public and regulators on the nuance of our industry?

Find out more about Genesis Block - https://genesisblock.com.au/

It seems a little crazy to start a blockchain podcast the week after the FTX collapse! 

So why have we done it? 

It has never been more important to provide a platform for the builders in this space. 
Too much attention and focus has been given to crypto influencers and noise makers. 

Blockchain Chatter aims to cut through the noise and give the industry's outstanding leaders the opportunity to talk about their businesses, the big problem they solve and how Blockchain and emerging technology can become the operating system of a fairer, safer, and more efficient world.

Blockchain Weekly

Welcome to Blockchain news, a weekly roundup and dissection of the Big news headlines across blockchain and digital assets.

Dexter Cousins is joined by Blockchain leader of the year and Founder of Genesis Block, Chloe White.

Chloe and Dexter cover the latest Blockchain and digital asset headlines.

Reserve Bank and Digital Finance Cooperative Research Centre to Explore Use Cases for CBDC

Is this a case of innovation theatre? Is there a real need for a CBDC in Australia?

What is the chance of an Australian CBDC becoming a real thing?

ASIC Survey - 44% of Retail Investors Hold Crypto Assets

What does this mean for regulation in Australia?

Ethereums Final Testnet Merge Goes Live

What does the Ethereum merge mean? What impact will it have on Ethereum moving forward?

What are some of the risks, especially if there is a fork on POW and POS?

How likely is it this will go ahead in September?

U.S. Treasury Sanctions Tornado Cash

What are the implications here for anyone who has used Tornado Cash?

What does it mean for regulation?

How does the US or any government sanction a piece of code?

What could be the potential washout from this move?

Other Blockchain Weekly News

Crypto exchange Huobi looks for a buyer. 

Reports that Leon Li, the founder and CEO of Huobi Global, is in talks with investors to sell his majority stake in the cryptocurrency exchange, 

SBF and Justin Sun are said to be likely buyers.

Blackrock and Coinbase are partnering to offer a spot Bitcoin trust

BlackRock has seen substantial interest in crypto from their clients despite the market’s steep downturn

Its new bitcoin trust follows a deal to connect Blackrocks Aladdin platform to Coinbase Prime

 

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111: Genesis Block, Chloe White

In episode 111 of Fintech Chatter Podcast Dexter Cousins chats to Chloe White of Genesis Block, Australia’s leading experts in digital asset policy.

Chloe has become one of the most sought-after advisors on digital assets and was recognised as Australia's Blockchain Leader of the Year and Professional Advisor of the Year at the Blockchain Awards 2021. 

She supports the emerging digital asset industry to de-risk growth strategies, deploy capital, and engage with government policy. 

Having spent 10 years of her career with the Federal Government, Chloe has served as a key contributor to policy processes in Parliament in both an internal and external capacity. 

These have included the crypto-asset Senate Inquiry, National Blockchain Roadmap Lead to the Commonwealth Treasury, and as a representative on multiple Council of Financial Regulators blockchain and finance working groups. 

Chloe sat on the Advisory Board of INATBA,  as the represenative for the Australian Government, and was the Founder and Director of the APS Blockchain Network.

Chloe holds a number of board and advisory positions, including the appointed Strategic Policy Advisor to Blockchain Australia, and an Advisory Board member of the RMIT School of Economics, Finance, and Marketing.

Dexter and Chloe talk about:

- Reinventing your career and finding what gives you energy
- Building a profile as a highly sought after Advisor
- The challenges in scaling a consulting business
- Where Australia ranks in digital asset innovation
- How to get a consulting business off the ground

You can find out more on Genesis Block and Chloe https://genesisblock.com.au/

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90: Chainlink Labs, Niki Ariyasinghe

In episode 90 of Fintech Chatter Dexter Cousins is joined by Niki Ariyasinghe,  Head of Business Development, Asia-Pacific at Chainlink Labs.

It's been almost 18 months since Niki was last on the show for our Blockchain Special

Chainlink is the industry standard oracle network for powering hybrid smart contracts. 

Managed by a global, decentralized community, Chainlink Labs currently secures billions of dollars in value for smart contracts across decentralized finance (DeFi), insurance, gaming, and other major sectors.

Niki shares his thoughts on Defi and how the technology is poised to bring a revolutionary change to banking and insurance.

There's a discussion on the actual application of the technology such as parametric insurance and their partnership with Marsh, the world's biggest insurance brokerage.

And Niki also shares Chainlink Labs 'remote first' policy on hiring and how it opens up a global talent pool.

For more info or to check out https://chainlinklabs.com/

Or reach out to Niki on LinkedIn

80: AgriDigital, Jins Kadwood

In episode 80 of the Fintech Chatter Podcast, Dexter Cousins is joined by Jins Kadwood, Chief Technology Officer of Agridigital.

Dexter first met Jins in 2018 alongside the Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison handing Jins the CTO of the year at the Fintech Awards. 

So it was cool to see Jins join another Fintech Chatter guest, Agridigital as CTO.

Backed by Square Peg Capital and founded by Emma Weston and Bob McKay, Agridigital is an Australian Fintech providing farmers with a digital way to manage grain from production to payment anywhere, anytime.

Jins chats about how Agridigital is combining technologies across blockchain,  smart contracts, Defi and peer 2 peer lending to revolutionise the farming industry.

Jins also shares how his past experience as a professional soccer coach influences his approach to building and leading tech teams.

You can find out more about Agridigital

And finally, we promised to plug Jins' latest passion project Stylish CTO

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