86: Mambu, Kristofer Rogers on Fintech Chatter

In episode 86 of Fintech Chatter Podcast, Dexter Cousins is joined by Kristofer Rogers, General Manager for Australia and New Zealand at Mambu, the cloud-native digital banking platform.

Kris is instrumental in solidifying Mambu’s presence in this region. In this exclusive interview, he shares the company plans for the region and why Mambu sees Australia as a great place to grow.

Kris gives his thoughts on open banking and where Mambu can play an active role in creating ecosystems between incumbents and Fintechs. He and Dexter discuss the rapidly blurring boundaries of where Fintech and other industries are blurring.

And Kris gives advice on leadership, launching businesses and he also shares his tips on how to be successful in a Country Manager style role.

About Kristofer Rogers

In November 2019, Kris was named the Start-Up Executive of the Year at the CEO Magazine’s Executive of the Year Awards for his work as the CEO of Split Payments. 

Kris was the driving force behind Split Payments’ success and transformation into a key player in direct debit and real-time payments solutions. 

Kris is recognised as an innovator in the tech industry and a thought leader in emerging payments and, specifically, open banking. He regularly speaks at events and on panels.

Register for Mambu's Future Forum - https://www.mambu.com/insights/events/the-future-forum-2021


67: X15 Ventures, Toby Norton-Smith,

Fintech Chatter Podcast #67 Dexter Cousins is joined by Toby Norton-Smith of x15 Ventures. 

x15 Ventures (the CVC arm of Commonwealth Bank) is a venture scaler focused on building, investing or acquiring ventures that can deliver the next generation of services in and around banking, advantaged through integration and support from CommBank. 

Toby launched x15 in 2020 and is currently the Managing Director. Prior to x15 Ventures, Toby was General Manager of Digital Growth at CBA, CEO of a fintech venture in the wealth space (StocksInValue), and commenced his career at McKinsey and Co.

Tune for a candid and insightful chat as Toby shares how he and the x15 team are taking a different approach to CVC.  

Toby also shares some exclusive news on the latest talent and venture acquisitions. Plus he gives his views on the future of Fintech and why banks need to focus on collaboration.

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Find out more about x15 Ventures

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Kraken, the digital bank of the future

Dexter Cousins chats to Kraken's Jonathan Miller (Australia Managing Director) and Jakub Zakrewski  (Singapore Managing Director) on their move to become a digital bank.

Kraken is the most trusted cryptocurrency exchange on the market and recently announced the granting of a banking license in North America.

It's been another big week for digital currency. Paypal has announced they will enable spending of Bitcoin on the Paypal platform.

Jonathan and Jakub share their insights on the future of digital currency, what a banking license means for a crypto exchange, how regulators, central banks and financial institutions are now embracing digital currencies and just what can be expected from Kraken in the future.

Tune in for a super interesting chat.

Discover Kraken - https://www.kraken.com/

Nick Wilde, Thought Machine

In Episode 36 Dexter Cousins is joined by Nick Wilde, APAC Managing Director of Thought Machine.

Founded in 2014 by entrepreneur Paul Taylor, Thought machine enable banks to deploy modern systems and move away from the legacy IT platforms that plague the banking industry.

Thought Machine's cloud native core banking platform, Vault, has been written from scratch as an entirely cloud native platform. It does not contain a single line of code which is legacy, or pre-cloud.

Customers include Lloyds Banking Group, SEB, Standard Chartered and Atom bank. Now more than 350 people across offices in London and Singapore Thought Machine have raised more than £110m in funding.

Listen to Nick talk through the Thought Machine solution and their plans for Australia.

Find out more https://thoughtmachine.net/

Follow Nick https://www.linkedin.com/in/wilde-nick/

Dexter Cousins on Fintech Insider podcast


The rise of Australian digital banking.

Our good friends at 11:FS kindly invited Dexter Cousins on Fintech Insider Podcast. We think it is a pretty special show , especially as the focus is on Australian Fintech.

Simon Taylor heads up a great panel of guests to talk all about digital banking in the Asia Pacific region. With a special focus on Australia, we take a look at how far the industry has come, competition from Australia's 'big four' incumbents, and what the future holds for digital banks in the region.

Dexter is joined by fellow guests

Matt Baxby on Scaling Revolut in Australia

In episode 29 of Fintech Chatter Dexter is joined by Matt Baxby, Country CEO for Revolut, one of the worlds fastest growing Fintech.

Matt shares an insider's view of the Rocket Ship that is Revolut. We discuss their unique approach to building a bank,

Matt Baxby on Scaling Revolut in Australia

When we placed Matt Baxby as Revolut's Australia CEO in February 2020, the company had 4 million accounts and 700 employees. Today, Revolut has over 65 million customers, operates in 48 countries, and is valued at $75 billion. In this episode of Fintech Chatter, Matt joins us to break down what it actually looks like inside a company growing at that pace — and what he brought from his years working with Sir Richard Branson at Virgin that made the transition possible.

How Revolut Is Building a Bank Differently

Most neobanks start with a single product and bolt things on. Revolut took the opposite approach — building a global financial platform designed to handle everything from currency exchange to crypto to lending from day one. Matt describes the mindset as building for where the customer is going, not where banking has been.

That's not just positioning. Revolut's product catalogue now spans multi-currency accounts, stock and crypto trading, insurance, and business banking across dozens of markets. The company generated $4 billion in revenue in 2024, a 72% increase year over year, with pre-tax profit hitting $1.4 billion. Those numbers don't come from a single killer feature. They come from a platform that keeps customers inside the ecosystem.

Matt's perspective on this is shaped by his time at Bank of Queensland, where he was Head of Retail Banking for six years before becoming Group CFO. He saw firsthand how traditional banks approach product development — committee-driven, slow to market, and anchored to legacy systems. Revolut, by contrast, ships fast and iterates based on real-time customer data.

Blitz-Scaling Revolut: From Startup to $75B Valuation

The speed at which Revolut scales is hard to overstate. During the search and onboarding process for Matt's appointment alone, the company nearly tripled in size — from 4 million to 10 million accounts and from 700 to 2,000 employees. That trajectory hasn't slowed. Revolut's latest secondary share sale in November 2025 valued the business at $75 billion, up from $45 billion just 15 months earlier, backed by Coatue, Andreessen Horowitz, Fidelity, and NVIDIA's venture arm.

Matt talks openly about the intensity of operating in that environment. Blitz-scaling means making decisions with incomplete information, hiring ahead of revenue, and trusting that the product-market fit will compound. It's not for everyone. The type of leader who thrives in a Series A startup often struggles at scale, and vice versa. What makes Revolut's approach work is a relentless bias toward action — a culture Matt says comes directly from founder Nik Storonsky, who told him on his first week in London: "Conquer your market."

What Matt Baxby Learned From Richard Branson at Virgin

Before Revolut, Matt spent years at Virgin Money Australia, where he relaunched the business and built out the leadership team. We've known Matt since 2010 from that era, long before the Revolut opportunity existed.

Working under the Virgin brand taught Matt something most banking executives never learn: the power of brand as a competitive weapon. Virgin Money wasn't trying to out-feature the big four banks. It was trying to make banking feel different — more human, less bureaucratic. That philosophy transferred directly to Revolut, which competes not just on rates and features but on the experience of using the product.

Matt also credits Virgin with teaching him how to operate in a challenger mindset. When you're not the incumbent, you can't afford to play by incumbent rules. You move faster, take more calculated risks, and stay ruthlessly focused on what the customer actually wants rather than what the industry has always offered. That's the thread connecting Virgin Money to Revolut — both are brands built on the premise that the existing players aren't good enough.

Revolut's Plans for Australia

When Matt joined, Revolut was operating in beta mode in Australia with no financial services licence. Within months, the company secured its AFSL from ASIC and began building out the local product suite — currency exchange, crypto access, stock trading, and a push toward becoming a full-service financial platform for Australian consumers.

The Australian market matters to Revolut for specific reasons. Australians are among the most frequent international travellers in the world, with an expat community of over 300,000 people. Cross-border payments and multi-currency accounts are not nice-to-haves here — they're core to how a large segment of the population manages money. Revolut's global infrastructure gives it a structural advantage over local neobanks that were built for domestic use only.

Matt's ambition for the Australian business has always been to reach one million customers within a few years of launch and to position Revolut as the primary financial app for Australians, not just an add-on account. The company has also been pursuing an Australian banking licence through APRA, which would unlock deposit-taking and lending products and put Revolut in direct competition with the major banks.

Why Revolut's Customer Obsession Drives Everything

One of the clearest themes in the conversation is how deeply customer focus is embedded in Revolut's operating model. This isn't the kind of customer-centricity you hear in corporate mission statements. It's structural. Product decisions are driven by usage data. Features that don't get traction get killed. The entire organisation is oriented around what the customer does next, not what the product team thinks is clever.

Matt points out that one of Revolut's strongest growth channels in Australia has been word of mouth — early adopters recommending the product to friends and family. That kind of organic advocacy only happens when the product genuinely solves a problem better than the alternatives. No amount of marketing spend can manufacture it.

Making the Jump From Banking to Fintech

For executives considering the move from traditional financial services into fintech, Matt's career path is a case study. The shift requires more than technical skill. It demands a fundamentally different operating cadence, comfort with ambiguity, willingness to make decisions without perfect data, and the ability to build teams in an environment where the job description changes every quarter.

Matt's advice: the mindset matters more than the CV. Revolut's most successful hires aren't necessarily the ones with the most impressive banking titles. They're problem solvers who aren't anchored to how things were done before, people with a bias toward outcomes over process.


Tier One People placed Matt Baxby as Revolut's Australia CEO. If you're hiring a country leader or C-suite executive for a high-growth fintech, talk to us about your search.


Ep 07: Eric Wilson, Xinja

Eric Wilson is CEO of Xinja, one of Australia's first Neo Banks. It's been a massive month for the business. An Aus $433m capital raise, record deposits - Xinja is a bank that is growing so fast, they have literally had to turn customers away!

I talk to Eric about the highlights of the last two years at Xinja. We also talk about hiring the right talent at the right time and the skills you need to go from Banker to Neo Banker.

Find out more www.xinja.com.au

Up Bank Launch

October 9th 2018 will go down in history as the day Australian Banking stepped into the future, with the official launch of Australia's first Next Gen NeoBank.

Up is a partnership between Australia's 5th largest bank, Bendigo and Adelaide Bank, and Ferocia, the software team behind Bendigo's award winning banking platform.

Tier One People Founder, Dexter Cousins was one of a lucky few guests at the launch event in Sydney. The launch itself was more akin to an iPhone launch than the launch of a bank. Founder Dom Pym (the dude in the beard) wowed the crowd with an amazing product demo. Guests watched on as Dom transfered money from his UP account into the account of Head of Product, Anson Parker (pictured next to Dom,) using a voice command, in seconds.

A bank built by Techies NOT Bankers

Users can sign 'UP' for an account in two minutes (the average sign up time is 2 minutes 5 seconds to be exact!) and use the account immediately through Apple Pay while your card is issued. UP is the first cloud-hosted bank platform using Google Cloud Services, testing results on the platform are incredible. During 11 months of testing, the platform has spent a total of just over two hours in down time!

The technology is super powerful with features like spend tracking, spend analysis, automatic transaction recognition, instant payments using Osko and Siri integration. And they have been super smart to preempt open data reforms by giving users total access to their data. The tech is backed up by seriously slick UX and design.

I asked founder Dom Pym if UP were classing themselves as a challenger bank to the Big 4 Australian domestic banks. This is what he had to say;

“Bendigo and Adelaide Bank’s strong track-record provides us with a credible banking partner, coupled with the creative licence to design Up in the most ‘non-bank’ way possible. It has meant we can offer customers a new way to manage their money ahead of everyone else.”

“The alternative would have been to apply for a restricted banking license and be in the same boat as the neo banks – unable to launch in any meaningful way until at least 2019.”

“We’ll keep working at a fierce pace to add new and exciting features at a consistent rate. We’ve been averaging about five deployments per day, which is unusual for a bank, to say the least, and we’ll continue to do so.”

Up Bank Launch

Is UP any different to any other banking app?

I have been using UP for the past six weeks. What I find so refreshing and unique about UP is the limited involvement of bankers in the build and design of products. UP has been built by Tech people (super talented Tech people!) and the end product is highly impressive.

The bar has been set high for challenger banks entering the market. What is so ground breaking about UP? They have taken the best of the best FinTech innovation and applied design thinking to create a banking app for a world where customers own their data. Australian consumers are long overdue an enjoyable and convenient banking experience. UP delivers and then some.

Exclusive for Tier One People network

Skip the wait list and get access now. Download the UP Banking App on iTunes and Android and enter code DEXTER - Limited to first 50